FACTUAL, OBJECTIVE READ
For anyone who wants to play the Middle East game in the interest of our
great Nation in an objective and balanced way, they should know these
are the views of the 'best and brightest' in the business who have 'been
there and done that.' For your information and hope you become
enlightened.
Sub: Lieutenant General Chuck Pitman's Views, Semper Fi!
This 'Letter of Apology' was written by Lieutenant General Chuck Pitman,
US Marine Corps, Retired:
For good and ill, the Iraqi prisoner abuse mess will remain an issue. On
the one hand, right thinking Americans will abhor the stupidity of the
actions while on the other hand, political glee will take control and
fashion this minor event into some modern day massacre.
I humbly offer my opinion here:
I am sorry that the last seven times we Americans took up arms and
sacrificed the blood of our youth; it was in the defense of Muslims
(Bosnia, Kosovo, Gulf War 1, Kuwait, etc.)
I am sorry that no such call for an apology upon the extremists came
after 9/11.
I am sorry that all of the murderers on 9/11 were
Islamic Arabs.
I am sorry that most Arabs and Muslims have to live in squalor under
savage dictatorships.
I am sorry that their leaders squander their wealth.
I am sorry that their governments breed hate for the US in their
religious schools, mosques, and
government-controlled media.
I am sorry that Yasser Arafat was kicked out of every Arab country and
high-jacked the Palestinian 'cause.'
I am sorry that no other Arab country will take in or offer more than a
token amount of financial help to those same Palestinians.
I am sorry that the U. S. A. has to step in and be the biggest financial
supporter of poverty stricken Arabs while the insanely wealthy Arabs
blame the USA for all their problems.
I am sorry that our own left wing, our media, and our own brainwashed
liberal masses do not understand any of this (from the misleading vocal
elements of our society like radical liberal professors, CNN and NY
TIMES).
I am sorry the United Nations scammed the poor people of Iraq out of the
'food for oil' money so they could get rich while the common folk
suffered.
I am sorry that some Arab governments pay the families of homicide
bombers upon their death.
I am sorry that those same bombers are brainwashed into thinking they
will receive 72 virgins in 'paradise.'
I am sorry that the homicide bombers think pregnant women, babies,
children, the elderly and other non-combatant civilians are legitimate
targets.
I am sorry that our troops die to free more Arabs from the gang rape
rooms and the filling of mass graves of dissidents of their own making.
I am sorry that Muslim extremists have killed more Arabs than any other
group..
I am sorry that foreign trained terrorists are trying to seize control
of Iraq and return it to a terrorist state.
I am sorry we don't drop a few dozen Daisy cutters on Fallujah.
I am sorry every time terrorists hide they find a convenient 'Holy
Site.'
I am sorry they didn't apologize for driving a jet into the World Trade
Center that collapsed and severely damaged Saint Nicholas Greek Orthodox
Church - one of our Holy Sites.
I am sorry they didn't apologize for flight 93 and 175, the USS Cole,
the embassy bombings, the murders and beheadings of Nick Berg and Daniel
Pearl, etc...etc!
I am sorry Michael Moore is American; he could feed a medium sized
village in Africa.
America will get past this latest absurdity. We will punish those
responsible because that is what we do.
I am sorry that Barack Hussein Obama may be elected president of the
United States when he doesn't have a clue on how to be a strong
Commander-in-chief in a world filled with Muslim extremists who will do
whatever it needs to do to destroy the lives of civilized people while
killing innocent men, women and children in order to bring a change that
is beneficial to all Islamic terrorists worldwide.
I am sorry that voters on the liberal left don't understand the
frightening changes that are taking place in the Muslim world and what
these changes will do to this world in which we live.
I am sorry that the Democratic Party has been highjacked by Socialists
and Communists right under the very noses of those who take pride in
calling themselves democrats.
We hang out our dirty laundry for the entire world to see. We move on.
That's one of the reasons we are hated so much. We don't hide this stuff
like all those Arab countries that are now demanding an apology.
Deep down inside, when most Americans saw this reported in the news, we
were like - so what?
We lost hundreds and made fun of a few prisoners. Sure, it was wrong,
sure, it dramatically hurts our cause, but until captured we were trying
to kill these same prisoners. Now we're supposed to wring our hands
because a few were humiliated?
Our compassion is tempered with the vivid memories of our own people
killed, mutilated and burnt amongst a joyous crowd of celebrating
Fallujahans.
If you want an apology from this American, you're going to have a long
wait! You have a better chance of finding those seventy-two virgins.
Signed, Chuck Pitman
Lieutenant General, USMC
EMail source, don't know if it is true, but I hope so.............
Your comment could not be submitted due to questionable content: I support neither Bush or McCain, I am not even a republican. But if you think Obama is the messiah we are done as a country. He is an arrogant, ignorant Marxist. A Racist opportunist that cannot speak without a teleprompter or think without handlers. I have been buying, gold, guns and ammo. I have an off the grid place I can move to and went 92% liquid in the market a year ago. Bush is a monumental failure, but he will look like Abe Lincoln, if Obama is elected. He has that Jimmy Carter Misery index all warmed up again. Ever since Harry and Nancy took over, we have gone down the tubes. Now go stand in line and wait for all the new entitlements you have been promised like the good little commie that you are. I am a conservative, not a right winger. I want the as little as possible from the government. Billy Budd
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/pitman.asp
Posted by: Cary at July 8, 2008 12:02 PM"Pitman" forgot one:
I'm sorry so many modern Americans feel that an injustice done against the U.S. justifies abdicating our national honor; America once abhorred torture and fought and died to create a world that respected the rights of the accused. We even insisted the Nazis be granted the right of Habeus Corpus and fair, open trials at Nuremberg. We were a land of courage and fortitude. But no more. Now a crime committed by SOME Arabs is enough to justify the torture and murder of ANY Arab (Iranians are Persian, BTW, not Arab). 3000 died on 9/11, killed by Saudi Arabians. 100,000+ have been killed in Iraq. For what?
And I apologize that any American would be so craven and ignorant as to say "the last seven times we took up arms" were in DEFENSE of Muslims. The last seven times we took up arms were:
• The Balkan War — Mixed ethnicities, including both Muslims and Catholics.
• Restoring Democracy in Haiti — Catholics
• Somalia — Yup, we saved us some Sunni Muslims!
• Persian Gulf War — We KILLED Muslims to DEFEND oil fields
• Operation El Dorado Canyon — we BOMBED Muslims to avenge Germans
• Grenada — We rescued U.S. medical students — some of whom may have, in fact, been Muslim.
• Assault on Iran to rescue hostages — Again, we ATTACKED the Muslims to SAVE the Christians
That's the last seven. Two of them were specifically in defense of Muslims. Three of them were AGAINST Muslims. Before that, we were in Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand, Cuba, Taiwan, Korea and WWII.
Barleymash
Posted by: Barleymash at July 8, 2008 02:02 PMWhatever our faults, I still rather live here than the flea infested shithole Muslims call home.Barleymash, you should move to Canada, your Hate America schtick is getting old. Obama will fuck this country up for centuries.............
Posted by: billybudd at July 8, 2008 02:55 PMDude... with all due respect, the "you hate America" retort is what is old. There are very specific points made here, and all you have to say is "you hate America"?!?! Come on, you're better than that!
Look we've been at this ongoing discourse for a long time down, and we've always been respectful of each other. Why is that stopping now? The last time I asked you to explain your position, you ignored me. Shall I try again? Okay, here goes...
Don't you think it's deplorable that someone would falsely pose as a US Serviceman to further a political agenda?
I look forward to reading what you think.
Posted by: Cary at July 8, 2008 05:59 PMRight or wrong, true or not, I wish he had said it or someone did because it is true. As far as the barleymush clown, he came on here and made an ass of himself before. He can kiss my ass. If Obama gets elected they say taxes in NY will hit the 60% mark. Good luck with that. But then again taxes will be the least of our concerns.
Posted by: Billy Budd at July 8, 2008 06:39 PMYou didn't answer my question, nor did you address any of the points made. Regardless of any personal problem you may have with the writer, he does make valid points here. He is also a personal friend of mine, to whom I recommended to your blog for reasonable discourse. Yes, I do remember something he said unknowingly hit an personal nerve with you once before, and it was addressed sensitively by both parties. Is it possible we can all move on and focus on the discussion at hand? Barleymash is incredibly well informed, thoughtful, and passionate about America. I consider him a mentor in political discourse.
And who is this "they" who say Obama will raise taxes by 60%? Have you read Obama's actual economic plan? It's right on the internet, so there is no need to rely on "they".
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/
Posted by: Cary at July 8, 2008 07:19 PMHey, the clown's back.
Most right-wingers like yourself have a very hard time accepting reality. That's because when you look at simple hard facts, you lose. Every single time. Your guys trash the economy and our guys clean it up. Your guys get us into wars you're not ready to fight and our guys get us out of them. Your guys rant and roar about "The War On Terror!" but our guy is the only one to actually bring a World Trade Center bomber to justice. (How's that Dead Or Alive hunt for Osama going?) And so because the light of reality showcases your impotence, you resort to the "you hate America!" bullshit.
Me, I'm a REAL American. That means I understand what Democracy is. Democracy is our OBLIGATION to make sure America is the best possible nation it can be. Not America Right Or Wrong. America Right Because I Work My Ass Off to MAKE it Right. But you're a 28-percenter. One of the few idiots left who can't see what an incredible disaster the Bush administration has been for our country and the whole world. And that McCain is going to be even worse.He's just as stupid as Bush (He graduated 894th out of a class of 899) and twice as arrogant.
As George Carlin said, "If you think the average person is stupid, by definition, half the people are stupider than he is!" Dude, you're not even average. If you support Bush or McCain, you're at only 28 percent.
Posted by: Barleymash at July 8, 2008 08:19 PMThis piece of shit blog censored by answer. Get used to it because this is what we will get tenfold soon. Read my answer at the bottom of the post.
Posted by: Billy Budd at July 8, 2008 08:39 PMBillybud,
Firstly, while you may not be Republican, you are Right Wing, as the very definition of such is conservative. That said, I'm glad you have realized how horrible our current leader is. I know you had reservations about casting your vote for him, but I never really felt you "got it" - I'm happy to see the shift.
But since you're so incredibly unhappy with the choices, shall I assume from your posted answer that you're not going to vote at all then? While we rarely agree, your entire outlook is very different now than when we first communicated four years ago, at the outcome of the last Presidential election. It makes me sad.
Posted by: Cary at July 9, 2008 12:21 AMWeird. Your own blog censors your comments? How will this get ten times worse under Obama? It's the conservatives who've been tapping our phones and e-mails, bankrupting citizens over "indecent language" and throwing people in lock-up over their political positions. In fact, McCain's people just threw a LIBRARIAN out of a public meeting because she had a McCain = Bush sign. Censorship is the purview of your guys. Not mine.
I'm sorry if I keep mis-labeling you a Republican. But your rhetoric is directly out of the GOP talking points memo. if it walks like a duck…
So, Billy Budd, it's always a joy dropping in and responding to your conservative rants. You might wonder why I bother. That's simple. I know I'll never convince any hard-core conservatives that they should open their minds. But there are lots of undecideds out there who do have open minds. And when I see a long sheaf of uninformed, misleading, unAmerican crap like the letter from the fictitious "Pitman," I think it's my duty as a loyal American to make sure those lies don't sit unchallenged. Now, anyone drawn to read the "Pitman" letter will also have a chance to see some truth and perhaps make a decision that actualy helps America, instead of helping to drag it further down into the racist, abusive pit the Bushies have dug for it over the last 7 years.
Barleymash
Posted by: at July 9, 2008 06:46 AMBush Derangement Syndrome runs rampant through the democratic party and the destruction of this great country is necessary as long as the President is pulled down with it. Censorship is a liberal doctrine, God out our lives, guns out of our hands, hate speech laws, treating minorites like bad little children, the fairness doctrine to censor talk radio, and the lack of tolerance in universities. I could go on and on. You come here because there is no one left around you to rant at. Most liberals are not confident enough to accept diversity in a natural form. They force it upon us, then only associate with like minded individuals. Obama threw out some towel heads because they looked bad on camera in the backgroud in Michigan...........They all suck.
Posted by: Billy Budd at July 9, 2008 07:06 AMLike I said, I won't change your mind, and that's fine. But anyone tallying facts vs invective clearly sees that "Pitman" is an empty, malicious, deceptive, racist rant. And your responses are mindless parroting of Fox News/Karl Rove TPs. Everything I've said, on the other hand, can be verified. Facts are on my side. Reality is my ally because it terrifies conservatives.
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